Comments on: ‘Conversion Therapy’ – Should we ban it? https://blogs.icmda.net/2021/02/08/conversion-therapy-should-we-ban-it/ Comments on healthcare, christianity and world mission Tue, 16 Feb 2021 01:38:16 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: JohnAllman.UK https://blogs.icmda.net/2021/02/08/conversion-therapy-should-we-ban-it/#comment-2402 Tue, 16 Feb 2021 01:38:16 +0000 https://blogs.icmda.net/?p=1004#comment-2402 I have been pointed to numerous articles in the press advocating a ban on conversion therapy in my country, which is the UK. I always challenge those who draw those campaigning articles to my attention to cite an example of a health professional practice in the UK that offers conversion therapy, if they can. None of them has ever been able to cite a single example of this happening. However, the claim is usually made at some point in the ensuing flame war, that commonplace religious practices of Christians, such as praying for those who say they want to abandon homosexual activity that God should enable them to accomplish what they say they want, somehow *amount* to a *type* of “conversion therapy” per se. I conclude that what we are dealing with is a conspiracy theory, a moral panic, a witch hunt, and an attempt to criminalize religious practices because certain people advance a false analogy between these perfectly ordinary religious practices and science-based or pseudoscientific therapy that purports to impose change upon a patient without his or her voluntarily making of the change in himself he wants somebody else to make in him, the latter of which absolutely no health practice is actually offering anywhere in the UK.

All the claims of those who claim to have been subjected to conversion therapy in the UK, recently, seem to boil down to complaints of agent provocateurs with journalistic projects planned in advance, who told priests and other church people, whilst working undercover, that they were struggling with homosexual temptations and asked their victims to pray for them. When the victims did as they’d been asked to do in good faith, taking the pretence of the agent provocateurs at face value, the agent provocateurs thought to themselves “bingo, gotcha” and went on to write the exposes they planned all along, of “so-called conversion therapy” being offered in the UK, albeit by *churches*, not psychotherapy practices. “So-called” by the agent provocateurs turned journalists that is, rather than by the priests and other victims of the sting, who wouldn’t have dreamt of referring to their offering up of prayers requested as the offering of any sort of “therapy” at all.

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By: Simon Stiel https://blogs.icmda.net/2021/02/08/conversion-therapy-should-we-ban-it/#comment-2288 Tue, 09 Feb 2021 17:21:40 +0000 https://blogs.icmda.net/?p=1004#comment-2288 Andrew Lilico too wrote a thoughtful article about this issue. If a therapy is proven to be ineffective, we can not rule out future methods. If sexual orientation is morally neutral, it doesn’t stop people wanting to change it. https://www.peter-ould.net/2013/12/12/guest-post-andrew-lilico-on-the-gay-change-bill/ I hope the issue is continued.

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By: Simon Stiel https://blogs.icmda.net/2021/02/08/conversion-therapy-should-we-ban-it/#comment-2283 Tue, 09 Feb 2021 14:32:21 +0000 https://blogs.icmda.net/?p=1004#comment-2283 I also introduce what Andrew Lilico wrote. We could agree that therapy now is ineffective without ruling out future methods: https://www.peter-ould.net/2013/12/12/guest-post-andrew-lilico-on-the-gay-change-bill/

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